This is a big change which is why you're seeing a lot of knee-jerk posting. Many of these people would probably be posting similar things if you announced the character bazar would now exist.

People who think this is pay-to-win basically don't understand that pay isk for chars already exists. I think that this removes a lot of the friction which you could argue worsens the system - the character bazar has enough flaws that it doesn't really work well, which means that if it was doing damage it wouldn't do much. But it doesn't really do damage: there are idiots who spend real money to get characters but then they quickly realize SP doesn't get you all that much power. There's no real gain in listening to people just ranting about it without an argument - pay to win isn't an argument as this is shifting around SP, not creating it - and there will be a lot of traditionalist ranting. But it's a good idea, though it requires some thinking around the economy aspects to ensure you don't devalue SP.

I would put less efficiency into the process earlier because there is a lot of 'wasted' SP that goes into characters that were long ago good enough (all my main characters on accounts are 100m+ SP because why not) and you'll see a deluge of SP from old characters that don't really need the SP. That could seriously impact the SP economy by flooding the market initially. Of course there are also rich old characters - like me - with tons of isk who will just plug in packs at 10% efficiency because what the hell else will i do with the planets i have converted into storehouses for my immense stacks of isk.

There's also going to be an initial flood from people yanking out buttscratching V and other useless skills, as well as buying up horrible pubbies to put through the skillgoop extractor so you may want to create a system to slow that initial flood (limit the number of extractors that are sold, initially, for example) so that the SP leaks out into the market instead of crashes out.

All the people moaning and complaining about the idea are people that already have 50-100+ million skill points...

Yes, you've spent your fair share of time training your skills to be where they are but this is NOT pay to win...

My character has 2.2million SP and am currently training core skills and want to fly a curse as its my favorite ship..

Current training time left to fly 'efficiently' - 70d 11h 21mn...

That is effectively 2.5m SP (roughly).

If I had the option to spend -ú20-30 to avoid those 70days to get into the ship I want to fly and make me want to play the game more, than I'd be happy to do it.


What issue do you see of a character being 'boosted' to 5m or even 10m skillpoints etc? I imagine it wont be cheap getting millions of skillpoints doing it this way either.

I was tempted by character bazaar and buying my own character but that character would never be 'mine'... it would never be special... never have my own name etc.

I fully agree with this option as I dont see a major issue with it.

All the vets can go cry somewhere else. Just because you dont want newbies being a 'competition' in anyway...

IM A NEWB AND I WANT TO PAY A LITTLE EXTRA TO FLY A SHIP AND ENJOY THE GAME THAT I ALREADY PAY FOR!

The general pool of skill points does not change, so, how do you see the roaming off SP by skilled players not as a strategic gameplay thing?

No-one is becoming 'Leet by buying skillpoint, but by learning to fly a ship.

Don't speak for everyone man. Have you not heard of the character bazaar? Saying "we all earned it" is beyond idiotic. That's just as much p2w as this is.

How is that a huge difference? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE OTHER THAN THE BIRTHDATE OF THE CHARACTER. So you buy a character who was a previous corp thief, pirate, scammer or w/e... now what? your screwed with a character with a bad rep which you had nothing to do with.

I do... Bitter vets would have more people around them that could fly high end doctrines like they do. Just by roaming off their own SP.

Given that the achievement's barrier to entry is merely time and the payment of a monthly subscription, yes, I think it's totally fair. Your accomplishment is fairly meaningless; anyone can do it if they just wait.